Lake Nyasa mpakani mwa Tanzania na Malawi

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Tanzania ‘warmongering’ with Malawi in border row

By Nyasa Times Reporter

August 8, 2012 · 114 Comments

Tanzania has warned that it will be prepared to go to war with Malawi on the ownership of Lake Malawi, also referred to as Lake Nyasa by some countries, thought to have oil deposits.
The two countries have scheduled August 20,this year, in Mzuzu — the northern city of Malawi -for showdown talks on the matter.
Despite Malawi government saying it wants the matter to be handled diplomatically, some overzealous Tanzanian officials have been war-mongering .
Tanzania’s chairman of the parliamentary committee for Defence, Security and Foreign Affairs, Edward Lowassa, is quoted by The Citizen, declaring: “We expect this conflict will be solved diplomatically using the committee of foreign affairs ministers from both countries and using the mediator whenever needed. Malawi is our neighbour and therefore we would not like to go into war with it.”
“However, if it reaches the war stage then we are ready to sacrifice our people’s blood and our military forces are committed in equipment and psychologically. Our army is among modern and stable defence forces in the world,” declared Lowassa.
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Mh. Lowassa - Mwenyekiti wa kamati ya Bunge ya Mambo ya Ulinzi kwa Tanzania

There are reports that Tanzania has already sent troops to the border but that has not been independently verified.
Malawi’s Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Minister Ephraim Chiume has since assured that “ this should not be a cause for anxiety or alarm.”
Nonetheless, Tanzania minister for Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, Bernard Membe, has ordered Malawi to consider an immediate stop to all gas and oil prospecting activities on the portion of the lake that falls on the Tanzania side.
He told parliament that the Tanzanian government was committed to ensuring that its people are protected “at any cost”.
The conflict time line
According to Chiume, the border between the two countries was defined in the Heligoland Treaty signed by the former colonial powers Germany and Britain on 1st July 1890.
“The Heligoland Treaty defined the border between the two countries as being the edge of the waters on eastern shore of Lake Malawi.
“Furthermore, the Heads of State and Government of the Organisation of African Unity (OAU) made a resolution in 1963 that member states should recognise and accept the borders that were inherited at the time of independence. The African Union (AU) made similar resolutions in 2002 and 2007,” said Chiume.

Waziri wa Mambo ya Nje wa Tanzania Bwan. Bernard Membe

But Tanzania’s Membe said the conflict started in the early 1960s, when the first Malawian president, Dr Hastings Kamuzu Banda, claimed that Lake Nyasa and the whole of Mbeya in Tanzania were part of Malawi using the 1890-Heligoland treaty.
“But, talks about the matter stopped somewhere as Dr Kamuzu Banda had a relationship with South Africa and Tanzania was in support of South African freedom fighters,” Membe said.
He said serious talks on the matter were revived in 2005, between President Jakaya Kikwete and the late Dr Bingu wa Mutharika, whereby a ministerial committee was appointed by both countries to solve the dispute over the border and the lake’s name.
“The committee met in 2010 and 2012, whereby a number of issues were discussed including some of the aircraft claimed to belong to the oil and gas researching companies from Malawi flying in the Tanzania airspace,” he said.
He told Parliament that Tanzania was interested to end the conflict through round-table discussions and to find a long-term solution.
Tanzania wants 50 per cent share of the lake, but Malawi claims to own the whole of it.
Malawi has awarded Surestream Petroleum of UK a licence to prospect for oil on the lake.

BAADHI YA COMMENTS NDIO HIZI:

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malodza apa Reading Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

lets go to war. who is tanzania for that matter. ma taifa achabechabe

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from mbeya says Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

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u greedy malawian, ur saying mbeya is part of malawi? u go to hell… according to international laws a country is entitle to the waters which fall on it’s side, u guys want all lake? what about the part which fall on mozambique side? did they gave you? ur so greedy… we will die before we allow you to take our territory.

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Patriots Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 1:49 pm

as much as we don’t want to see blood flowing,but lake malawi is for Malawians. We are the lions with fearless heart. Number is nothing but the calibre. We take tanzanians as brothers but don’t take advantage on that because you will be surprised. we are the lions, it is better to die defending our own country than to go to Dr congo and ivory coast. we are the lions don’t despise as because you will be surprised. we are capable of heating hard where it pain most, we are lions. its my hope you will come to your senses, don’t forget the Rwanda and Israel saga, we are capable and will surprise you. Malawi is a peaceful nation,and we love you Tanzanians as brothers.

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NoStGoSa Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

v:shapes="_x0000_i1031">	Why wer u Tanzanians taking so long to tel us ur exact stand over th boarder issue? Ok here are some facts(yes) u’v to know: 1.Th war wil not last any longer than a month for u’ll by then hav already surrendered, 2. U’ll be th first country to b humiliated coz of claiming somthng tht God created never to belong to u Well-loved. Like 4 Reply
· Sammy Says:	August 8th, 2012 at 6:37 am

Aah, Malawi. You asked for it. Now you are getting what you deserve. Don`t be scared now the baby is about to come out.
What you are seing is just the rainbow. It hasn`t started raining cats and dogs yet.
For God`s sake stop sending your officials to Tanzania if you think you are right on this one. Let`s meet in the middle.
A giant is not supposed to be awaken !!

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kodi chanthunya alipo? Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:31 am

Kodi mumaopa Bingu agalu inu?

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Webster Zgambo Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:16 am

Aw! War? Tanzania is ready for blood shed and yet Ephraim Chiume is saying this should be no cause for anxiety. We are living in fear.

Charlies Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:12 am

The waters that are in the individual countries such as TZ, MOQ belong to those countries.
How can Malawi own waterways in another country?
This seems too typical of Malawians.

What a stone age country!

Big Daddy Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:05 am

i am now smelling a rat and start think that Tanzania is doing this out of jealous……why rushing to war? Malawi is a peaceful nation and i don’t think we will followsuit.

Ackim Mtaja Nyirenda Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:03 am

The Almighty said do not touch my annointed one mind you Tanzania dont say i did not warn you,That small Malawi you see is a chosen one you will regret this.

Msunje Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:00 am

Akufuna kutibela lake malawi.ansalole JB.

Lyson Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 5:52 am

Typical Swahilis. Blood-thirsting savages. Mxi.

sida Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 5:45 am

These Taifas are brutes, they dnt understnd wt a treaty is. By the time the mediator wil intervine, they wil b fools! Hw cn they claim they own 50% of de lake? Then they wil say 50% of de pple are Tanzanians my foot!

job t Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 5:34 am

	You need war, by the way that minister of defence from Tz Do you know what war means, are a soldier yourself, aready on Malawi bounderies for what? Switch on your sreen and see how people suffer because of bad idea,GOD MUST INTERVENE
· Lowassa shouild know that Malawi Defense Force is better recommended in peace keeping missions in war torn countries. We dont fear Tanzania. If worse comes to worst Mbeya will be Malawi.We Malawians will sacrifice to defend our waters and we will fight along side our beloved Army. Like 2 Reply

LEADER OF OPPOSITION WENIWENI Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:18 am

Lets fight

arnold arnold Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:17 am

Zomwezi zotipatsa Ambuye mwaulelezi kumafunanso nkhondo!! shame!

Bles Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:16 am

Joyce please do something this guys Tanzanias want to yake our lake. Please, osamangotengana kupita ku chipatala ndi khumbu wakoyo. Those guys they should not even claim nothing, if they claim means nothing belongs to them.

apo Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:14 am

akutchula za nkhondo coz aona kuti kuli abiti… malemu sakanawatchulira zopusazo… mwaona tsopano mukamasankha amai atsogoleri……

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Ndotosi Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:13 am

..and i caught ‘Our army is among morden and stable defence forces in the world’, declared Lowassa. Kuchilumba galizoniko mothandizana ndi anzanu a moyale nkhani ndi imeneyo, anzathu a tz atsogola kale ku border uku. Ndeu sizopangira kumpira tiyeni kumeneko, matata truck agwire ntchito yake nanga muli ndi ndege ngati inu?

James Gwaza Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:11 am

European colonial rule in Africa left behind the same scars as their Balkanization schemes had left in Europe. Nations were divided by colonizers, territory was bartered among them, and economic life was shattered. The results of colonial misrule are obvious. Today 103 ethnic conflicts are ongoing on the African continent. Some of them are old-fashioned land disputes while others are the product of artificially drawn international borders that divided ethnic groups, and still others have oil in the mix.

Prior to World War I, nation-states chose war as their preferred instrument for settling international border conflicts. After the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, many countries accepted international mechanisms to address such conflicts, and several conflicts were settled through international negotiation.

This approach gained momentum and accelerated after World War II and would eventually be expanded to the regulation of international trade. Thus, by 1995 member states of the World Trade Organization (WTO) submitted an annual average of thirty cases for resolution using the WTO’s international dispute mechanism.

Why oh why can’t Malawi and Tanzania take the case to this court, instead of saber rattling?

James Lule Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:10 am

Ifenso tili ready kuwabandula mpakana mataifa omwe kutiona kupusa ife tiyeni tiwaphike agalu amenewa samaitha koma kuzichemelera basi………

akagwa Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:04 am

I know by now some of our so called soldiers are about to run away.

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ineyo Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 6:39 am

	Amai kugona pakati nkuyambilira, lets strike them first akamabwera ku mzuzu for talks Like 1 Reply
·		it seems the people of Malawi are looking for a friendly match with Tanzanians,dont try .LETS SOLVE ISSUES DIPLOMATICALLY MY FELLOW AFRICANS WE HAVE LOTS OF CHALLENGES TO OVERCOME POVERTY,DISEASES,NEO COLONIALISM,GENDER IMBALANCE,LOW LEVEL OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY,DEPENDENT ECONOMIES…..etc Well-loved. Like 5 Reply

Alex Ferguson Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:07 am

Odillo, its your time. Please mobilise your men in uniform. Angoni onse apukute zibiya zawo. Ngati akufuna kutilanda nyanja nde kulibwino atiphe tonse. Enough is enough. This Tanzania is like the biblical Goliath who was defeated by the young David!

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mjiba Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:07 am

then to WAR it must be with Tanzania.

Bweteke Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:03 am

Nkhondo ibwere tione kuthawa kwa nkhalamba zazikazi zaukweche kumpheto monga John Bande ( JB) i mean amai

Za zii Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:01 am

Bushiri prophesied about this event in April if not May when he said “something will be discovered in Lake Malawi which will bring about conflict with its neighbours. But then it will be okay.”

That aside, why is TZ being so greedy. They have the whole lot of Indian ocean where they have discovered gas, half of lake Tanganyika and lake victoria. The love of money is really the root of evil. This Lowassa is saying they are ready to sacrifice the blood of their poeple why not his blood and the blood of his family members? Why should innocent people die from something which will not benefit them directly. Its people like him who should be the fisrt ones to die in such cases because they are the ones advocating for War. Mxiii! Silly, greedy glutons. Can’t get enough.

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Musatipute Ndiyathu Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:58 am

Hahahaha. Masewera eti. Nkhondo mumaiziwa inu. Tiri ndizida? Mungoyesa munyapulidwa. Tanguyesani Tikuonereni. Tangopemphani ngati mufuna mafutawo. Zankhondo sizikuthandizani mulira nazo sweeee. Inu mpaka pano simdziwa kuti nkhondo ena amalowererapo?

Dama la khoswe Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:57 am

Tanzania yaponda mwala. Tiyeni ife tiponde zitsulo. We know they have a strong army but thats not the way to go. Ours is also equal to the task

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Loto Mafuleka Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:53 am

awa ndiye akuyiputa dala. osaasekelela. mwayi wina uwu okhala ndi doko osagwilitsa nsanje port. kungomenyana nawo kuwalanda malo mpakana kuIndian Ocean. Hey asilikali nazoni zimenezi osamangomwa pamachance. Mwayi, mwayi kwaone ofuna doko ku Indian Ocean, yes we can

wasalire Mtimbuka Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:46 am

Whats the matter with these Taifas and their war mongering? And when did they realise that the late was half theirs.Let the government ask the British governments and the Germans to sit down and show the two countries were the lines were drawn during the partition of Africa, otherwise all these ministerial committees, threats of war and this chest thumping is uncivilised and brutish. So what if they have a big and advanced army? Lets not be intimidated and give in, if they have a lot of blood to sacrifice, good for them, but i dont see where the issue of blood comes in; sounds a little satanic to me. British,Germans,Malawians and Tanzanians around a table looking at maps and agreements, thats all. Noone needs to do any rituals or sacrifices here.

alex Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 7:30 am

There is no any way that this mater can be settle as gentle man where the other is demanding what he or she is not entiled to.All these years where were Tanzania with this issue now that we want to make money with our lake then they should say share 50 50 this is an insult to we Malawians athough am not a solder but i can not hestate to join the defence force to kill my self these un resoanable people.Dare the war Tanzania and see if you will stand ife tiope chifukwa mukuti mumenya nkhondo.Malawi government dont give in for their claims next time they will claim Mzuzu,Chitipa and Kalonga that its their ares too.God bless my mother Malawi (Nyasaland)

· When have they realised dat half of de lake is theirs ever since? Just take dem headon asatione kupusa moreover our soldierz shud have something to do out there period, mukufuna kuwaonetsa ‘amama ngati oipa eti? Stupid Tanganyika.

mr fuel Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:26 am

…TANZANIA SEEMS TO HAVE ARLEADY MADE DESITION TO GO INTO WAR.
>DOES SWAHILIS KNOW THAT WE’RE ALSO GOOD ON THAT FIELD?
>THEREFORE MALAWI SHOULD ALSO BE ALERT ENOUGH IN CASE OF WAR.
>but i would wish this issue be solved deplomatically.
GOD HELP US!!!

mr fuel Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:25 am

…TANZANIA SEEMS TO HAVE ARLEADY MADE DESITION TO GO INTO WAR.
>DOES SWAHILIS KNOW THAT WE’RE ALSO GOOD ON THAT FIEKD?
>THEREFORE MALAWI SHOULD ALSO BE ALERT ENOUGH IN CASE OF WAR.
>but i would wish this issue be solved deplomatically.
GOD HELP US!!!

Steve Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:24 am

Hey Malawi this is good time to establish good international relations with world powers, We have Uranium with us, lets use it strategically for difence purpose, we can go propaganda by advertising contracts for nuclear power generation with an attempt to establish the nuclear assets, such a neighbour will be forced to close their mouths.

Siyalimba Kanonono Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:23 am

It’s time for Malawi to stay quite by not engaging in a cold war. Refrain from getting into a trap of being as snobbish as Tanzania is doing and concentrate on what the law says. Those commenting on this forum should not scoff at Tanzania and people will see the wisdom that God has blessed Malawians with.

I believe those advocating for war have forgotten the very fact that Kiswahili is spoken widely in Karonga, Chitipa, Mzuzu, Nkhata-Bay, Lilongwe and Blantyre because Malawi is home to tens of thousands of Tanzanian traders and fishermen who live peacefully in that country, legally and illegally. They may also have forgotten that Dar es Salaam is home to thousands of Malawians who undertake low-profile jobs like shamba boys, house attendants and watchmen. In the incident of war, both countries will lose and believe me, there will never b an outright winner. Going around the coast of Lake Nyasa on the Tanzanian side, one notes that they are related to Malawians; they speak like Malawians and they have never had any threat from Malawians in as far as the use of Lake Nyasa water is concerned. This is contrary to what some Tanzanian MPs’, bent on gaining political mileage, would want the people to believe. With this whole truth, chances are that, in the case of war, some Tanzanians and Malawians will easily betray their nations because they have always lived peacefully with their neighbours and that the proclaimed hostility is only in political circles. It should be noted that Tanzania ousted Iddi Amin simply because Amin’s soldiers were hostile to Ugandan civilians. These civilians were the ones that helped TPDF on how to defeat the dictator.

This border issue is not as simple as some politicians in both countries would want their nations to believe. The political environment in both countries is not conducive for a discussion of such calibre to be vested in the hands of politicians.
In Tanzania Membe, Sitta and Lowasa are campaigning to succeed Kikwete and therefore, they will always utter serious statements as if they know everything better than anyone. To them, this is a political capital, meant to brainwash Tanzanians into believing that they are better candidates who can do what Nyerere could not do (see the attached document). It is not amazing therefore that it is only in Tanzania where the Foreign Affairs minister and a parliamentary committee have the powers to declare war. On the other hand, in Malawi Joyce Banda will be seeking her first complete term as president come 2014 and this is her first serious litmus test which has a possibility of determining who she will be in 2014. Above all, the oil thing, which I’m certain, will benefit the Mzungu and a few corrupt Malawians in the ruling circles, was initiated during Bingu’s era. It therefore gives Banda headache as DPP (Bingu’s party) will be eying her decision on the matter with keen interest.

My call to both countries is that we will be making a grievous mistake if we entrust politicians of such aspirations with discussions that determine the future relations of these two nations. Let experts take leading roles and each country should be ready to accept the outcomes. Malawi is more important than Joyce Banda and Bingu’s DPP just as Tanzania is more important than Sitta, Membe and Lowasa.
May God Bless Africa

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Koma Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:21 am

Call me backward, but in Africa, where oil and minerals are concerned everyone wants to lay claim to them even with flimsy excuses. This lake has been called Lake Malawi for the past 40 plus years.

On the other hand, Govt should drop the issue of oil drilling on this beautiful lake.

THEKERANI BOY Says:

August 8th, 2012 at 8:20 am

So sad.Tanzania such a vast country but still wants to claim a piece of our small Malawi.Even boasting to have one of the best armies in Africa.Yes we understand we are poor and by no means can we stand against Tanzania but that should not give Tanzania muscles to bully us.Should this be a wake call for Malawians to always stand up as one? I have heard people from south and a few from centre claiming the Northeners are not part of Malawi and others even go to the extent of saying they should be chased back to the North coz they have taken up their jobs.Now since Tanzania claims 50%of the lake which covers the whole Northern region,should we give the North to Tanzania coz we dont want them? Its a wake up call really

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